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@PoopaTroopa @jackbliss My question, that you apparently ignored, is why do ships disappear bottom first? The video that you linked to said that they are just loaded down. But, that doesn't explain why they get progressively lower until they disappear entirely.

And as far as there not being evidence goes, that is still up for debate. simply saying that there isn't any doesn't accomplish anything.

(Sigh) Ships you think disappear bottom first can easily be brought back with powerful lens camera like the Nikkon P900. They only appear to go over this imaginary "curve" of the "globe" due to limited human vision and perspective. There are tons of videos on YouTube that prove this. If this is your only argument for the globe model despite decades and trillions spent on "space travel" I'm sorry but Flat Stationary Earth movement will continue to grow and there is very little you can do about it. Now you may ask where is the proof for flat Earth. I can provide you video footage of upto 20 miles up and it looks completely FLAT. As for what is above there is a firmament which cannot be penetrated using manmade rockets as you will see in this footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qab8VOBhsJ0

@PoopaTroopa @jackbliss @jackbliss Now it's my turn to sigh! Oh where do I start?! First off you STILL haven't satisfied my question. Just saying a powerful lens will "bring it back" proves nothing, since it doesn't reverse the action at all. When the bottom of the ship has disappeared, no matter how powerful my lens is I can't see the bottom of it again! All I see is a larger image of the ship that I could just see normally, a ship mind you that I could see the bottom of previously.

So you still have yet to give me a satisfactory answer.

Now, about the video supposedly taken from an altitude of 20 miles. I already pointed out the problems with it in a comment earlier, please go read that comment.

Now for the video that you just referenced about rockets. Have you ever fired a rocket before? How about an aerial firework? When it starts running out of fuel, it begins to lose speed. As it loses speed it loses the force necessary to cut through the air, causing it to spiral out of control. As it continues to lose airspeed it begins to struggle to keep its nose pointed up due to its weight, and very quickly plummets to the ground.

Now you probably will argue that that's not what is happening here, so instead I ask you how do planes, helicopters, ultralights, flares, artillery, etc. function if there is a "barrier" that close to the ground?

I need strong evidence to make me believe that the earth is flat. At the moment you are failing to convince me, and are just harming your cause in my eyes with your so called evidence. I and people I know and trust have had first hand experience with this, and you think I should just throw all that away, and pretend it didn't happen, because some ignoramuses fired some crappy little rockets, warped some pictures, and zoomed in on ship?! Good luck!

I think you are either a troll or under some kind of satanic spell like most of us thanks to decades of indoctrination. The fact that "scientists" have used the ship going over the curve for decades if not centuries to prove the globe but now thanks to advanced technology in everyone's hands we can clearly bring the ship back into view which would prove to any rational viewer there was NEVER a curve to begin with which I've already provided video evidence like this one where the viewer brought back a ship which was over 31 miles out in sea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw4vFTJPBRU

Infact even the SUN can be brought back into the sky after it set as there is no actual curve hiding it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqGNjSGOIzQ

The rocket videos are clearly hitting some kind of barrier in the sky hence scraping or touching it is causing ripples on water like substance on the ceiling of the firmament not burnout or spiraling out of control due to losing speed which is rubbish. Have I personally launched a rocket that far? No. Do I consider video footage as evidence? Yes I do as would any court of law.

I am providing the best video evidence I have for the Flat Earth including the 20 mile up and completely FLAT horizon which for some reason you have issues with. What do YOU have for the ball after trillions of dollars and decades spent by NASA? Photoshopped composites because it has to be? Distorted fish eyed lens that make Florida look half the size of the "planet"

We are living in some kind of realm that is closer in description to the Bible and nothing will convince any genuine researcher once they dig deeper. Good luck on YOUR journey my friend. #ResearchFlatEarth

@PoopaTroopa @jackbliss @jackbliss Like I have said multiple times, the zoom in the video did not "bring it back", as before he zooms in you can still see it! Maybe if you actually went to sea, you would understand what I am talking about. Plus there is no logical explanation for why distance on a flat plane would cause such an illusion. Not to mention the FACT that the higher your altitude more the horizon curves, don't try to tell me that the video is unedited, because I've seen the curve firsthand.

Like I said in my previous response, if there was a ceiling that low, how would artillery, aircraft, and tall towers exist?

Also the Bible isn't on your side either.

Joshua 10:13 ESV
And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

Psalm 103:12 ESV
As far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us.

Ecclesiastes 1:6 ESV
The wind blows to the south and goes around to the north; around and around goes the wind, and on its circuits the wind returns.

Ecclesiastes 1:5 ESV
The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises.

Job 26:7 ESV
He stretches out the north over the void and hangs the earth on nothing.

It seems to me that you are invincibly ignorant, and no amount of logic or evidence will convince you. Hopefully you will see reason some day. If you keep an open mind and research carefully, logically, and scientifically, questioning everything that you're told by BOTH sides, then maybe you understand that I have chosen this side due to the amount of evidence.

Lol seen the curvature for yourself what a joke. From where? According to Neil deGrasse Tyson top astrophysicst you can't see the curvature even from 30,000 ft. Not one of my footage was debunked and you are nothing more than a troll just as I'd suspected.

Also nice try using the ESA (English Standard Version) verses of the Bible which was published in 2001 you little sneak.

Here are some original King James Version Bible verses that describe the firmament and stationary FIXED Earth none of this 1,000 mph spinning globe around the Sun nonsense.

Genesis 1:7, KJV: "And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so."

1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable."

I'll add a verse which is on Wernher Von Braun American aerospace engineer and space architect and one of the founders of NASA

Psalms 19:1 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."

NASA btw means deception in Hebrew but hey what a coincidence

Add on top of this all these official satanic numbers

The speed of Earth moving around the Sun 66,600 mph, with the Earth tilting at an axis 66.6 degrees, curvature of Earth in one mile squared .666 ft.

Now before you leave another triggered response in some vain hope to have the last word NO ONE can stop this movement and the globe model will fall apart as humanity wakes up from the dark spells of free mason science from the time the apple fell on Newton's head in 1666. Another 666... SHOCKING!

Peace!

@PoopaTroopa @jackbliss @jackbliss Sounds like someone is mad they're losing this debate! Ad hominems like calling me a troll or saying I'm satanic just hurt your argument.

The verb נָשָׂא (/nasa/) actually means lift or carry (or marry). However, the archaic verb נָשָׁא (/nasha/) does mean to deceive, though it is not attested in that form in the Bible, only in derived forms such as נִשָּׁא /nisha/ and הִשִּׁיא /hishi/.
I can't speak or read hebrew but this information makes more sense then your claim. If NASA really was lying to people on such a large scale, why would they name themselves something that means deception?

Also the earth is traveling around the sun at 67,000 mph, and the earths axis is tilted at 23.5 degrees, and the earths curvature is 7.98 in per mile, so even if 666 is "the devils number", you're still wrong.

I'm done trying to convince you, now you're talking about dark spells and satanic numbers?! Give me a break! This isn't World of Warcraft! The more you attempt to argue, the more I realize that the only person who can change your mind is you. You have to approach this, or any topic for that matter, with an open mind if you expect to learn anything.

P.S. Newton's apple incident is a legend, meaning it is probably not even true.